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Döärverwysings andere språken

Et was my up evallen dat ik by vöäl artikelen geyn verwysing vinde når andere språken. Neet vanof de neaderlandske kante, ouk neet vanof de sassiske kante. Lekt my wal belangryk dat lüde uns makkelijk vinden künt in de lyste van språken, by artikelen dee in beide språken beståt. (Hebbe so neet ekekken ho as dat med de düütske/platdüütske kante is). Wat künnet wy hyr an doon? NGolds20 (overleg) 12:13, 18 mrt 2019 (CET)

Dår hevt wiki rechtevoort wat moois vöär. As y under et artikel oaver skone (ik nööm mär wat) skryvet: [nl:schoenen], indexeert wiki dat vanselv en kryg y nå een antal dage de melding dat et döärverbunden is. Woolters (overleg) 13:24, 18 mrt 2019 (CET)

Dat geet nait altied vanselv, see Spesiaal:OngekoppeldePaginas. Ajje n pagina in n annere wiki weet te vinden, kanstet deurverbinden via de link "Verwiezingen derbie zetten". En anners müt er een nei Wikidata-item gemoakt wörden. --bdijkstra (overleg) 13:38, 29 apr 2019 (CEST)

Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April

You will not be able to edit most Wikimedia wikis for up to 30 minutes on 11 April 05:00 UTC. This is because of a hardware problem. You can still read the wikis. You can see which wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

12:56, 8 apr 2019 (CEST)

Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request

Help met het vertalen in uw taal

The Wikimedia Foundation has published a Medium-Term Plan proposal covering the next 3–5 years. We want your feedback! Please leave all comments and questions, in any language, on the talk page, by April 20. Bedankt! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:35, 12 apr 2019 (CEST)

Sassisk?

Moiie, is de pråthook upny edåne jå? Skeylt wear, et was jå bynå een vyv minuten ümleage rollen up egeaven moment, haha. Mar dår kwam ik neet vöär. Misskyn is myn vråge (of spontane vertwyvelinge) een wat te achter-of vråge vöär hyr, mar toch inholdelik: Wattet wy hyr so skryvet en (hoapelik vöälvüldig) pråtet -wattet wy (neader)sassisk nömet-, is dat wal dådwarkelik sassisk? Ik hebbe my gewoon wys låten maken dat unse språke van et oldsassisk kümt, ofwal de språke dee as gebrükelik was in et olde stammenverbund der sassen, dee by mekare kummen rund 200/300 nå unse jårtellinge. Mar hevt unse headendaagske 'sassisk' noch wal kenmarken van ear språke toon ter tyd? Of de upvolging dårvan, et middelneaderdüütsk? In ho verre pråtet wy noch wal echt sassisk? Asset wy dat al oit edån hebbet? Dit vråg ik my of, ümdat ik opeyns et benül kreyge van dat ik ait segge dat ik sassisk pråte, ümdat dee name der nu eynmål vöär brüükt wörd. Mar der sit nudaagsk so alderbastends vöäle neaderlandsk en düütsk in, dat ik neet meyr weate wat der nu 'puur sassisk' an is, as y et vergelykt med et oldsassisk of et middelneaderdüütsk. Ik binne geyn språk-kündigen, ik pråte alleyne mar so as ik pråte. Mar of et nu gramatikale of töänige vergelykings hevt med disse oldere språken, dår heb ik natuurlik geyn bewys van, want ik weate neet ho as myn vöärolder espröäken hebbed. Wal heyl arg interessant. Is et (gramatikaal en/of töänig) sassisk wattet wy lüllet? (en, jå ik snappe wal dat språken up mekare künnet lyken en mekare beïnvlodet)NGolds20 (overleg) 01:23, 3 mei 2019 (CEST)

Klopt. Eyns in de sovöäl tyd wördt de bodel upeskound... As jy HYR een beatjen rundkyken dan kryg jy een årdig idee van ho et oldsassisk derüüt eseen hevt, en HYR ho et middelsassisk derüüt sag. Natuurlik is et sassik wat veranderd in de loup van de jåren, mär dat is by et neaderlandsk en et düütsk neet anders. Et steyt as een pål boaven water dat de sassiske dialekten al meyr når de landstalen to-egroid binnen (bv. vöärdat wy allinnig 'jy' en 'y' kreygen, bestünd ouk de form 'du' in nds-NL, dee inmiddels verdrüngen is), mär de basiskenmarken dee de taal sassisk maken binnen good herkenbår en noch altyd in stand. De prosody (aksent, toon, ritme) likt by jungere spreakers al meyr up de landstalen an te gån, in dat upsicht binnen dede spreakers een deyl van et et sassiske karakter kwyt, mär der binnen gelukkig noch altyd lüde dee een good sassisk aksent hebben. Gramatikaal, of up et gebeed van woordeskat is der natuurlik ouk variaty in et nivo van sassisk (party formen binnen eyrder üüt et NL eleynd, terwyl andere formen eyrder sassisk binnen), mär in basis is wat wülen mid syn allen pråten nysassisk. Servien (overleg) 23:21, 3 mei 2019 (CEST)

Moin NGolds20. Jå, der is vöäle verhollandsked in uns sassisk. An de düütske syde van 'n pål sint se mangs net wat behöldener as hyr, mär dat hevt ja ouk med språkafstand te maken. Vöär uns is de vermenging van hollandsk en sassisk vöäle makkeliker, ümdat se wat wöördeskat en grammatika körter by mekander ligget as düütsk en sassisk. Der hearst under spreakers altyd slim et idee dat uns sassisk nit meyr et 'echte' plat is (een vast trånentrekkersverhaal wat alle geslächte wear herhaald wördt). Mär dat sint dan vake sentimenten van öldere lüde dee verlangt når öäre kindertyd. Dee hebbet noch ne öldere variant med emaked. Mär språken verandert toovöärtan. Do y niks an en dat hoovt ouk neet. Et plat van nu is nit 'slechter', gewoon anders as dotyds. As y kyket wo slim et engelsk veranderd is oaver de lätste 600 jår, sul y et eigenlik ouk gin engelsk meyr künnen nömen. Toch düt dår gin menske mööylik oaver. Üm an te sluten by Servien, ik sul et eyrder Modern Neadersassisk nömen. Dat hevt seaker noch wöörde en kenmarken van oldsassisk, mär vöär een deyl ouk nit meyr. (Y sullen et ouk ne verbeaterde versy köänen nömen, heylemål anepassed an disse tyd ;-) ). Woolters (overleg) 11:33, 13 mei 2019 (CEST)

Reisbeurzen voor Wikimania

Van 14-18 augustus vindt in Stockholm Wikimania plaats, de jaarlijkse internationale bijeenkomst van de Wikimediagemeenschap. Actieve Wikimedianen kunnen bij Wikimedia Nederland een beurs aanvragen voor deelname aan Wikimania. Dit kunnen volledige beurzen zijn voor reis, entree én verblijf, of een beurs voor een deel van de kosten.

Net als vorig jaar zou Wikimedia Nederland graag naast ervaren Wikimania-bezoekers ook tenminste twee Wikimedianen willen steunen die nog nooit naar Wikimania zijn geweest. Wil je Wikimania (misschien voor het eerst) meemaken, dan kun je met dit formulier een beurs aanvragen. Aanvragen moeten voor 1 juni worden ingediend.

Zoals altijd: je hoeft geen lid te zijn van Wikimedia Nederland om voor een beurs in aanmerking te komen. SRientjes (overleg) 13:06, 16 mei 2019 (CEST)

Belangrijk: Beoordeling beheerdersactiviteit

Hallo. Recentelijk is een nieuw beleid aangenomen over het verwijderen van "extra bevoegdheden" (beheerder, bureaucraat, enz.) door een gemeenschappelijke consensus (uw gemeenschap heeft een aankondiging van het overleg ontvangen). Volgens dit beleid worden de activiteiten van de moderators op kleinere wiki's beoordeeld door de stewards. Voor zover wij weten, heeft uw wiki nog geen formeel proces om de "extra bevoegdheden" van inactieve gebruikers te verwijderen. Dit betekent dat deze taak zo lang wordt uitgevoerd door de stewards volgens de Beoordeling beheerdersactiviteit.

We hebben vastgesteld dat de volgende gebruikers voldoen aan de inactiviteitscriteria (geen bewerkingen en geen gelogde acties in de afgelopen twee jaar):

1. Grönneger 1 (moderator)

Deze gebruikers ontvangen binnenkort een bericht, waarin hen gevraagd wordt het binnen de gemeenschap aan te geven als zij enkele of alle van hun rechten willen behouden. Als de gebruikers niet reageren, zullen hun geavanceerde rechten door de stewards worden ingetrokken.

Wil jullie gemeenschap haar eigen activiteitsbeoordelingsproces vaststellen, dat voor gaat op het globale proces, willen jullie een andere beslissing nemen met betrekking tot deze inactieve gebruikers met rechten of hebben jullie hier al een beleid voor dat niet bekend is bij de stewards, wil je dit dan aangeven op het berichtenbord van de stewards op Meta-Wiki, zodat we weten dat we niet verder hoeven te gaan met het beoordelen van de rechten op jouw wiki. Hartelijke dank. --Rschen7754 04:10, 19 jun 2019 (CEST)

Wikidata Bridge: edit Wikidata’s data from Wikipedia infoboxes

Sorry for writing this message in English - feel free to help us translating it :)

Hello all,

Many language versions of Wikipedia use the content of Wikidata, the centralized knowledge base, to fill out the content of infoboxes. The data is stored in Wikidata and displayed, partially or completely, in the Wikipedia’s language, on the articles. This feature is used by many template editors, but brought several issues that were raised by communities in various places: not being able to edit the data directly from Wikipedia was one of them.

This is the reason why the Wikidata Bridge project started, with the goal of offering a way to Wikipedia editors to edit Wikidata’s data more easily. This will be achieved by an interface, connected to the infobox, that users can access directly from their local wiki.

The project is now at an early stage of development. A lot of user research has been done, and will continue to be done through the different phases of the project. The next steps of development will be achieved by the development team working at Wikimedia Deutschland, starting now until the end of 2019.

In order to make sure that we’re building a tool that is answering editors’ needs, we’re using agile methods in our development process. We don’t start with a fixed idea of the tool we want to deliver: we will build it together with the editors, based on feedback loops that we will regularly organize. The first version will not necessarily have all of the features you want, but it will keep evolving.

Here’s the planned timeline:

• From June to August, we will build the setup and technical groundwork.
• From September to November 2019, we will develop the first version of the feature and publish a test system so you can try it and give feedback.
• Later on, we will test the feature on a few projects, in collaboration with the communities.
  • We will first focus on early adopters communities who already implemented a shortcut from their infoboxes to edit Wikidata (for example Russian, Catalan, Basque Wikipedias)
  • but we also welcome also communities who volunteer to be part of the first test round.
  • Then we will reach some of the big Wikipedias (French, German, English) in order to see if the project scales and to address their potentially different needs.
  • Even later, we can consider enabling the feature on all the other projects.

In any case, no deployment or big change will be enforced on the projects without talking to the communities first, and helping the template builders to prepare for the changes they will have to do on the infoboxes’ code.

If you want to get involved, there are several ways to help:

• Read and help translating the documentation pages
• Follow the updates and participate in the first feedback loop
• Talk about it with your local community

More ideas will be added on this page along the way

If you have any questions for the development team, feel free to ask them on the main talk page. You can also ask under this message, but if you expect an answer from me, please make sure to ping me.

Thanks for your attention, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 24 jun 2019 15:03 (CEST)

Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

1. Section editing
   • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
   • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
2. Loading overlay
   • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

• Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
• Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
• Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
• Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

• Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
• Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

20:32, 23 jul 2019 (CEST)

Update on the consultation about office actions

Hello all,

Last month, the Wikimedia Foundation's Trust & Safety team announced a future consultation about partial and/or temporary office actions. We want to let you know that the draft version of this consultation has now been posted on Meta.

This is a draft. It is not intended to be the consultation itself, which will be posted on Meta likely in early September. Please do not treat this draft as a consultation. Instead, we ask your assistance in forming the final language for the consultation.

For that end, we would like your input over the next couple of weeks about what questions the consultation should ask about partial and temporary Foundation office action bans and how it should be formatted. Please post it on the draft talk page. Our goal is to provide space for the community to discuss all the aspects of these office actions that need to be discussed, and we want to ensure with your feedback that the consultation is presented in the best way to encourage frank and constructive conversation.

Please visit the consultation draft on Meta-wiki and leave your comments on the draft’s talk page about what the consultation should look like and what questions it should ask.

Thank you for your input! -- The Trust & Safety team 10:03, 16 aug 2019 (CEST)

Skryvwyse vöär et wiki-gebrükersüterlik

Welken skryvwyse willen wy gebrüken vöär et wiki-gebrükersüterlik (de systeemteksten van Wikipedia), up et ougenblik binnen allinnig de höyvdmenus in NSS (Nysassiske Skryvwyse), de rest in een oldere versy van ANS (Algemene Nedersaksische Schriefwieze). Müt alles in NSS of toch alles in ANS? Ik höyre et graege vöärdat ik alles ümmegooie. Servien (overleg) 11:27, 18 aug 2019 (CEST)

Üm my do y allens in NSS (dat was et dool der van, ja?), mär de ervaring leyrt dat nit alleman dårin med wil. Woolters (overleg) 14:43, 18 aug 2019 (CEST)

Ik hebbe alles et leevst in eyne skryvwyse, van myn mag dat NSS weasen, as der te vöäle meansken teagen binnen dan vinde ik ANS ouk good. Mär halv-halv is neet so'n sukses heb ik al emürken, et löpt dan döär mekare. Servien (overleg)

Tokumst van de sassiske Wikipedia en Wikiwoordebook

Ik wil et graege hebben oaver de tokumst van disse wiki, kyken of wy allemåle mid de nöäse deselvde kante üüt stån, en kyken ho wy mid syn allen de tokumst seen van de neadersassiske Wikipedia. Evven een pår feiten up een ryge: de vöärbye 2 månden hadden wy 3 aktive gebrükers en 4 nye artikels (wårvan der 2 vordedån binnen vanweagen de slichte kwaliteit). De anwas van ny volk is in de vöärbye jåren neet slim to-enöämen. Nun vråge ik myn hardup af of et neet een idee is üm de krachten te bündelen mid de plattdüütsche Wikipedia. De düütsk-sassiske Wikipedia hevt so'n 50.000 artikels, in vöärnamelik et noordneadersassisk üüt Noorddüütskland. De skryvwyse dee dår gebrüked wördt is de Sass'sche Schrievwies (ebaseerd up de düütske ortografy).

Eyrtyds was der mär eyn wiki in et sassisk, en dat was feitelik allinnig mär düütsk-sassisk, vanweagen de skryvwyse en de afwykende woordeskat up summige vlakken hebben wy der destyds vöär eköäsen üm een amparte wiki up te richten vöär de nds-nl-dialekten. Nun löpt et up beide wikis neet so'n störm (up de nds-wiki hadden se de vöärbye 2 månden 4 aktive gebrükers mär wel een bült artikels, howel dat vöäral döärverwyssyden binnen). De nds-wiki löpt (lykas wülen) achter mid et oaversetten van et gebrükersüterlik van Wikipedia (van de twey höyvdunderdeyl dee oaveresetted künnen wörden hevt nds-nl-wiki 14% en 98% oaveresetted, nds-wiki 11% en 74%), as wy mekare dårin künnen understöänen dan skealt dat een bült wark (howel wy wårskynlik wel mid twey versys van et gebrükersüterlik blyven sitten).

Wår ik når wil kyken is of wy de twey sassiske Wikipedias up eyn of andere manere by mekare krygen künnen, de vöärdeylen sollen dan weasen:

• as wy et samendoon dan hebben wy meyr aktive gebrükers
• wy künnen mekare helpen dee eyne wiki up orde te holden (vöäle handen maken licht wark), beater upvangen van problemen
• wy hebben alles dan up eyne plekke + meyr internationale samenwarking

De nådeylen sollen dan weasen:

• de skryvwyse; se mütten bereid weasen üm oaver te gån up NSS
• een afwykende woordeskat, wat möägelik problemen givt (bv. vergelyk et artikel: 'Europeesk handvest vöär regionale talen of talen van minderheyden' vs. 'Europeeske charta vun de regionaal- un minderheidenspråken'). Wy mütten dan een tüskenversy kreeren, yts wat tüsken et nds-de en nds-nl in sit, as yts tevöäle afwikt.
• een ander nådeyl is dat alles in de loup der tyd ümmesetted müt wörden, wår een bült tyd in sol gån sitten
• party artikels süllen wy dubbel hebben en mütten samenedån wörden.

Wat wy dan ouk sullen künnen undersöken is of wy een glossarium anmaken künnen wårmead wy in een artikel mid een te afwykende woordeskat woorden künnen vervangen bv. in een artikel oaver de Tweyde Wearldoorlog (nds: Tweyden Werldkryg, Sass: Tweten Weltkrieg) sullen wy 'kryg/krieg' vervangen künnen mid 'oorlog' as et gebrükersüterlik inesteld steyt up nds-nl. Up de sassiske Wikiwoordebook, sullen wy künnen kyken of wy alles in NSS künnen doon, en anders alles konsekwent up de engelske Wiktionary in NSS doon. Ik höyre graege wat jülen ideen hyroaver binnen. Servien (overleg) 22:23, 20 aug 2019 (CEST)

Wat my angeyt drayet wy et gat der by in :). Woolters (overleg) 10:20, 22 aug 2019 (CEST)

Ik bin op zich wal veule iene Saksische Wikipedia veur Nederlaand en Duutslaand. Bin ik feilijk altied al ewest, al he'k gewoon ewarkt mit "the facts on the ground": det der twee versies bint.

Umdet 't zoveule wark zol wezen de beide bij menare te doen, muj hiel goed kieken naor de vermiende veurdielen. Ie schrieft: "wy künnen mekare helpen dee eyne wiki up orde te holden (vöäle handen maken licht wark), beater upvangen van problemen", en "wy hebben alles dan up eyne plekke + meyr internationale samenwarking". Daor zit wat in, mar löp 't dan onderholdstechnisch (te) zwaor zoas de zaken der now veur staot, mit twee amparte Wikipedies?

En dan misschien 't belangriekste: "as wy et samendoon dan hebben wy meyr aktive gebrükers". 't Zol mooi wezen as, bij samenvoeging, der meer schrievers zolden komen as 't absolute minimum dew al die jaoren ehad hebt. Mar iets zeg mij det det niet 't geval zal wezen. Waorumme zol Jan uut Slien wál gaon mitschrieven, as meer van de inhold Platduuts is? Of Christine uut Hambörg, as op de Platduutse Wikipedia van det vrömde spul uut 'Holland' verschient?

Ik vermoed feilijk det meer Grunnegers anetrökken ewest zolden hebben deur een Grunneger Wikipedia, Twenten deur een Twèentse, ezw. En tóch bin ik mordicus tegen zokse versnippering en navelstaorderije, die de dood in de pot is veur de aoverlevingskaansen van 't Nedersaksisch. Samen, en allennig samen, stark. Mar samen ok meer schrievers...? Ik dèenke det 't dan wieder zol gaon mit dezölfde twee of drei Nederlaandse plus twee of drei Duutse schrievers.

Ni'jluuseger (overleg) 21:03, 14 dec 2019 (CET)

New tools and IP masking

Hey everyone,

The Wikimedia Foundation wants to work on two things that affect how we patrol changes and handle vandalism and harassment. We want to make the tools that are used to handle bad edits better. We also want to get better privacy for unregistered users so their IP addresses are no longer shown to everyone in the world. We would not hide IP addresses until we have better tools for patrolling.

We have an idea of what tools could be working better and how a more limited access to IP addresses would change things, but we need to hear from more wikis. You can read more about the project on Meta and post comments and feedback. Now is when we need to hear from you to be able to give you better tools to handle vandalism, spam and harassment.

You can post in your language if you can't write in English.

Johan (WMF)

16:18, 21 aug 2019 (CEST)

Neadersassiske renaissance 2.0

De neadersassiske renaissance is ylüde wal bekend dacht ik. Maar wörd et neet en mål tyd ümme een 2.0 üüt te dragen? Nu asset wy ditte med Wikipedy gangs hebbet, der vervrissende nye neadersassiske musyk is, wy wat teentallen jåren verder binnet as toon, dat der nu een ungeveyre erkenning is vanüüt de oaverheid, dat der künst untsteyt, dat der lesprogramma's emaked wördet? Ik wille wal üütropen dat de Neadersassiske Renaissance 2.0 vanof (wonneyr weat ik neet precys, nu?) estarted is! Geyt jå good?! NGolds20 (overleg) 18:46, 30 aug 2019 (CEST)

Haha, dat is ne nobele gedachte, mär dan denk ik dat y et argens anders müt doon as hyr. Wikipedia is ja ginne politike steyde, wo gerne as wy dat ouk wilt. Dårby steyt disse wikipedia up u en my en een händkevul anderen nå stille. Nu kan et weasen dat dår verandering in kümt as y et up disse wyse gåt vermarkten, mär dat mag hyr düs neet. Woolters (overleg) 12:31, 1 sep 2019 (CEST)

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Ik vind de NSS prachtig, moar ik zit wal een betjen met de å. Ik kan 200 letters de minute tiepen, maor met de å mo'k altied iets spesiaals doon. Ho doot i'jleu dat? Droadnaegel (overleg) 01:53, 7 sep 2019 (CEST)

Up de mobile telefoon is et makkelik, dan hold jy de a gewoan langer inedrukked, up een olderwetse reakener is et CLTR + ALT + W. Jy sollen eventueel ouk noch een sassisk knoppenbord künnen installeren, mär dat is neet echt nöydig. Servien (overleg) 20:20, 7 sep 2019 (CEST)

Ik doo et altyd med nen deensk tuutsenbörd nevven et neaderlandsken tuutsenbörd. --Roerdinkholder (overleg) 22:53, 14 dec 2019 (CET)

The consultation on partial and temporary Foundation bans just started

Hello,

In a recent statement, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees requested that staff hold a consultation to "re-evaluat[e] or add community input to the two new office action policy tools (temporary and partial Foundation bans)".

Accordingly, the Foundation's Trust & Safety team invites all Wikimedians to join this consultation and give their feedback from 30 September to 30 October.

How can you help?

• Suggest how partial and temporary Foundation bans should be used, if they should (eg: On all projects, or only on a subset);

• Give ideas about how partial and temporary Foundation bans should ideally implemented, if they should be; and/or

• Propose changes to the existing Office Actions policy on partial and temporary bans.

We offer our thanks in advance for your contributions, and we hope to get as much input as possible from community members during this consultation!

-- Kbrown (WMF) 19:14, 30 sep 2019 (CEST)

Feedback wanted on Desktop Improvements project

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Hallo. The Readers Web team at the WMF will work on some improvements to the desktop interface over the next couple of years. The goal is to increase usability without removing any functionality. We have been inspired by changes made by volunteers, but that currently only exist as local gadgets and user scripts, prototypes, and volunteer-led skins. We would like to begin the process of bringing some of these changes into the default experience on all Wikimedia projects.

We are currently in the research stage of this project and are looking for ideas for improvements, as well as feedback on our current ideas and mockups. So far, we have performed interviews with community members at Wikimania. We have gathered lists of previous volunteer and WMF work in this area. We are examining possible technical approaches for such changes.

We would like individual feedback on the following:

• Identifying focus areas for the project we have not yet discovered
• Expanding the list of existing gadgets and user scripts that are related to providing a better desktop experience. If you can think of some of these from your wiki, please let us know
• Feedback on the ideas and mockups we have collected so far

We would also like to gather a list of wikis that would be interested in being test wikis for this project - these wikis would be the first to receive the updates once we’re ready to start building.

When giving feedback, please consider the following goals of the project:

• Make it easier for readers to focus on the content
• Provide easier access to everyday actions (e.g. search, language switching, editing)
• Put things in logical and useful places
• Increase consistency in the interface with other platforms - mobile web and the apps
• Eliminate clutter
• Plan for future growth

As well as the following constraints:

• Not touching the content - no work will be done in terms of styling templates or to the structure of page contents themselves
• Not removing any functionality - things might move around, but all navigational items and other functionality currently available by default will remain
• No drastic changes to the layout - we're taking an evolutionary approach to the changes and want the site to continue feeling familiar to readers and editors

Please give all feedback (in any language) at mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements

After this round of feedback, we plan on building a prototype of suggested changes based on the feedback we receive. You’ll hear from us again asking for feedback on this prototype.

Bedankt! Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

09:18, 16 okt 2019 (CEST)

Beta feature "Reference Previews"

A new beta feature will soon be deployed to your wiki: Reference Previews. As you might guess from the name, this feature gives you a preview of references in the article text. That means, you can look up a reference without jumping down to the bottom of the page.

Reference Previews have already been a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia since April. Now they will become available on more wikis. Deployment is planned for October 24. More information can be found on the project page.

As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test Reference Previews, please activate the beta feature in your user preferences and let us know what you think. The best place for feedback is the central talk page. We hope the feature will serve you well in your work. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes project.

-- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 11:47, 23 okt 2019 (CEST)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team wants your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk pages project

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.

• On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
• There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
• Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

Toolbar

The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.

• In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
  • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
  • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
  • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
• Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

• Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
• Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
• Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The Editing team hopes to share results in November. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

12:12, 29 okt 2019 (CET)

Wikipedia Asian Month 2019

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Wikipedia Asian Month is back! We wish you all the best of luck for the contest. The basic guidelines of the contest can be found on your local page of Wikipedia Asian Month. For more information, refer to our Meta page for organizers.

Looking forward to meet the next ambassadors for Wikipedia Asian Month 2019!

For additional support for organizing offline event, contact our international team on wiki or on email. We would appreciate the translation of this message in the local language by volunteer translators. Thank you!

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team.

MediaWiki message delivery (overleg) 17:57, 31 okt 2019 (CET)

Extension of Wikipedia Asian Month contest

In consideration of a week-long internet block in Iran, Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 contest has been extended for a week past November. The articles submitted till 7th December 2019, 23:59 UTC will be accepted by the fountain tools of the participating wikis.

Please help us translate and spread this message in your local language.

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team

--MediaWiki message delivery (overleg) 15:16, 27 nov 2019 (CET)

Vienen (=aoders)

"Hi'j hef 't wark in de vien'n", hij hef 't wark in de aoders, stiet der in G. Heijink (red.) (2003), Sallandse wijsheden, Hoevelaken: Verba (p.11). Ik heb nog nooit eheurd van een Nedersaksisch cognaat van 't Latiense 'vena' (aoder); kan iene dit plaatsen?

In 't boekien stiet ok: "Streekcultuur en streektaal zijn springlevend", dus wat in dit boekien stiet, muw mit een körreltien zolt nemen. Ni'jluuseger (overleg) 19:29, 10 jan 2020 (CET)

Ik hebbe noch neet eyrder vienen vöär åder ehöyrd/eseen, wel vöär 'vinden' (ik kan et prima mit hum vienen), mär dår höldt et mead up. Servien (overleg) 22:52, 10 jan 2020 (CET)

Wiki Loves Folklore

Hello Folks,

Wiki Loves Love is back again in 2020 iteration as Wiki Loves Folklore from 1 February, 2020 - 29 February, 2020. Join us to celebrate the local cultural heritage of your region with the theme of folklore in the international photography contest at Wikimedia Commons. Images, videos and audios representing different forms of folk cultures and new forms of heritage that haven’t otherwise been documented so far are welcome submissions in Wiki Loves Folklore. Learn more about the contest at Meta-Wiki and Commons.

Kind regards,
Wiki Loves Folklore International Team
— Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk)
sent using MediaWiki message delivery (overleg) 07:15, 18 jan 2020 (CET)

Movement Learning and Leadership Development Project

Hello

The Wikimedia Foundation’s Community Development team is seeking to learn more about the way volunteers learn and develop into the many different roles that exist in the movement. Our goal is to build a movement informed framework that provides shared clarity and outlines accessible pathways on how to grow and develop skills within the movement. To this end, we are looking to speak with you, our community to learn about your journey as a Wikimedia volunteer. Whether you joined yesterday or have been here from the very start, we want to hear about the many ways volunteers join and contribute to our movement.

To learn more about the project, please visit the Meta page. If you are interested in participating in the project, please complete this simple Google form. Although we may not be able to speak to everyone who expresses interest, we encourage you to complete this short form if you are interested in participating!

-- LMiranda (WMF) (talk) 20:01, 22 jan 2020 (CET)

Leuj toch...

'n Teller veur de Nederlands-Nedersaksische Wikipedie steet op zowat 7.000 artikeln. 't Kon meer, mar ook meender. Belaangrieker as de magie van hovöl artikeln of we hebt (ik zeg mar effen 'we', ook al bin ik hier nich merakels actief en zö'k mie nich zunder mear tot 'de gemeenschap' reakenen wuln) veen ik 'n inhoald dervan. En doar schort 't hier nogal an. Wie hebt hoonderden artikeln (veural joartaln) waor of (haast) niks in steet, en nog hoonderden aandere dee echt wal laanger mutten. Concreet:

• 857 artikeln bint korter as 100 bytes (!!!)
• 1476 artikeln bint korter as 500 bytes (da's met de väörege d'rbie)
• 2610 artikeln bint korter as 1000 bytes ('tzölmde as hierboven)

Vanzölms zit doar ook deurverwiezingszieden bie, dee ja gewoon nich langer wordt. En oawer wat gehuchten en noaberschappen zu'j ok nich rap mear veenden as wat in <1000 bytes past. Mar zovöl...

't Duch mie 't beste da'w 'n deel van dee 'artikels' gewoon wegdoot. Ik deank dan an joartallen woar of niks in steet. Oawer 2077 vealt veurleupig ook nich zovöl te verteln (ik weet nich of ie dan wat pland hebt...). Oawer 44 v. Chr. vealt nen bölt mear te verteln ('t jaor dat Caesar vermoord weud!), mar wat he'w d'roan as 't artikel doar niks oawer zeg? Valsen inhoald, nul imfermatie, alleanig mar good veur blauwe leenks en hogere artikelaontaln. En dan 0 (jaar). D'r is ageels gin joar nul west! Mar 't artikel lik te suggereern van wal.

Dan blieft d'r nog altied nen bölt artikeln oawer woar of een eankel feit in steet. Dat begunt al bie 't allerkortste artikel, 1452 ('t joar woarin Leonardo da Vinci weud geboarn). Dee mu'w vanzölf hollen. Mar dan bunt ze nog altied slechte reclame veur nds-nl:. Ik deank dus da'w die artikeln mutten oetbreiden. Gewoon oan de haand van aandere Wikipedia's toveugen wat d'r in dat joar nog meer is gebeurd. En meschien ne standaard-inleaiding van 't type "1452 was 'n schrikkeljoar wat op zundag begun volgens 'n Juliaanse keleander". Mar ik geaf to dat dat 'nen besten zet zol doeren.

Ik hol d'r ook reakening met da'w de Wikipedie op 'n langen doer weer tehopedoot met de Duuts-Nedersaksische Wikipedie. A'k zo noar oewen iever met dee "Skryfwyse" kiek, gleuf ik wal da'j dee ambitie hebt. In dat geval zö'k begriepen da'j 't nich doot.

Sorry veur dit lang en kritisch stuk tekst. Ik hoop da'j d'r wat met köant. Zeg mie in elk geval mar wa'j d'rvan veendt. Steinbach (overleg) 18:36, 26 jan 2020 (CET)

Ik vinde wal dat y argens wal gelyk hebbet, Steinbach. De jårtallen köänet üm my vöär nu ouk wal vord, mär wy hebbet der een setjen weaderümme een paar ehad dee as dee dinge üm de haverklap weaderümme satteden. Naja en üm der dan mär gin weaderümdrai-oorlog van te maken, hebbet wy se mär so låten. Feitelik sittet se ginnen buur in et venster en sölt se (as allens stöädig vöördan geyt) gewoon ooit nöydig weasen. Oaver al dan nit kleine artikels heb ik nit echt nen meaning, mär ik kan my begrypen dat ouk de kleinere in ne wisse tokumst noch es uutbreided wordet. Vordsmyten is dan sünde, enkel ümdat Steinbach se te klein vindet. Inderdaad köänet interesseerden se beater uutbreiden. Wellicht köänet y en ikke der noch es reklame vöär maken up de verskillende online kanalen. Woolters (overleg) 20:36, 26 jan 2020 (CET)

Ik bin et der ouk groutendeyls mead eyns. Artikels as 'Kolombia' (wår ruwweg in stünd: Kolombia is een land in Süüdamerika, punt.) wörden in elk geval neet meyr to-elöäten, der müt wel wat meyr oaver te vertellen weasen. Oaver kleine gehüchten völt vake neet al te vöäle te vertellen, een korte ümskryving is dan vuldoonde (mär as eyne dår een artikel van 10.000 bytes oaver maken wil/kan is dat vaneigens noch mooier). So heb ik van de weake een artikel oaver et middelsassisk üütgebreided van 665 bytes nå 46.194 bytes. Good dat jy kritisk meaddenken, et jår nul was een faut in de mal en is dumweg oaverenöämen, dee is nun vordesmeaten. Ümdat wülen nåst Wikipedia noch een leaven hebben en vake mid andere artikels beasig binnen of mid een andere insteak an Wikipedia warken (programmeren, oaversetten, nye artikels, underhold, bywarken van verolderde informaty, pseudosassiske artikels verbeateren/vordsmyten, spellingsfauten/skryvwyse anpassen van artikels, ens.) künnen wy neet alles anpakken, dår künnen wy altyd hülpe by gebrüken. Ik hebbe et der wel es mid de lüde van de nds.wiki oaver ehad üm et spül weader samen te doon (under een antal vöärwaerden, bv. et gebrüük van de Nysassiske Skryvwyse, intersassiske terminology [d.w.s. neet te neaderlandsk/düütsk en vöär ydereyne begrypelik]), mär dår was van de düütske kante neet sovöäle animo vöär. Vöärloupig gån wy up disse voot vöördan. Servien (overleg) 23:54, 26 jan 2020 (CET)

Vrymestelarye en Vrijmezzelderij

Wel kan dizze artikels samenvougen? --bdijkstra (overleg) 10:31, 19 feb 2020 (CET)

't Beste kan ien van de lu die mit 't artikel bezig ewest bint 't te beholden artikel anvullen mit informatie uut 't aandere artikel, waor dan een deurverwiezing van emeuken kan wörden. Ni'jluuseger (overleg) 11:43, 19 feb 2020 (CET)

Additional interface for edit conflicts on talk pages

Sorry, for writing this text in English. If you could help to translate it, it would be appreciated.

You might know the new interface for edit conflicts (currently a beta feature). Now, Wikimedia Germany is designing an additional interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This interface is shown to you when you write on a discussion page and another person writes a discussion post in the same line and saves it before you do. With this additional editing conflict interface you can adjust the order of the comments and edit your comment. We are inviting everyone to have a look at the planned feature. Let us know what you think on our central feedback page! -- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) 15:15, 26 feb 2020 (CET)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

• On 31 March 2020, the new reageer tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
• The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
  • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
  • a rich-text visual editing option, and
  • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

21:25, 8 apr 2020 (CEST)